Siwan berber homosexual tradition
#سيوة هي ذات أهمية خاصة ل علماء الأنثروبولوجيا و علماء الاجتماع بسبب تاريخيهم في الشذوذ الجنسي بين الذكور ، وحتى شعائر نفس الجنس الزواج التقاليد أن السلطات المصرية سعت إلى قمع ،
الألماني Georg Steindorff قام باستكشاف واحة سيوة في عام 1900 و ذكرت أن علاقات مثلي الجنس كانت شائعة ، وغالبا ما تمتد إلى شكل من أشكال الزواج: " احتفل بالزواج من صبي مع أبهة عظيمة ، وكذلك دفع
المال لصبي بلغت في بعض الأحيان إلى خمسة عشر جنيه ، في حين كان المال المدفوع للمرأة ما يزيد قليلا عن 1 جنية وعلق أنه على الرغم من الرجال السويون قد يتزوجون ما يصل إلى أربع زوجات ،
وفي عام 1937 كتب عالم الأنثروبولوجيا والتر كلاين أول الاثنوغرافيا مفصل لل سيوانس أشار فيها : " " جميع الرجال االسويون الشباب و الفتيان يقبلون علي ممارسة اللواط ... فيما بينها ولا يخجلون من ذلك؛
يتحدثون عن ذلك بشكل علني كما يتحدثون عن الحب من المرأة ، و العديد إن لم يكن معظم المعارك التي تنشأ بسبب المنافسة علي الاطفال .... الرجال يقدمون أبنائهم إلى بعضها البعض. جميع بربر سيوة .... معظم
الأولاد الذين يتزوجون منهم هم ما بين اثني عشر وثمانية عشر عاما من العمر
المصدر:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siwa_Oasis
لمن اراد قرأت باق الموضوع في هذا القسم Siwan homosexual tradition :)
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قمت بالترجمة عبر جوحل لان الموضوع طويل لمن اراد التكملة فليرجع الي المصدر
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ههههههههههههه ليس كلام كاتب بل هي ظاهرة مستفحلة جذبت العلماء الانثلوجيا والمستكشفين الاوروبيين لبحث الاسباب هذة الظاهرة حتي ان رئيس مصر اصدر قانون يجرم مثل هذة
الافعال
Siwan homosexual tradition
Siwa is of special interest to anthropologists and sociologists because of its historical acceptance of male homosexuality and even rituals of same-sex marriage—traditions that Egyptian authorities
have sought to repress, with increasing success, since the early twentieth century. The practice probably arose because from ancient times unmarried men and adolescent boys were required to live and
work together outside the town of Shali, secluded for several years from any access to available women.
The German egyptologist Georg Steindorff explored the Oasis in 1900 and reported that homosexual relations were common and often extended to a form of marriage: "The feast of marrying a boy was
celebrated with great pomp, and the money paid for a boy sometimes amounted to fifteen pounds, while the money paid for a woman was a little over one pound."[14] Mahmud Mohamrnad Abd Allah, writing
of Siwan customs for the Harvard Peabody Museum in 1917, commented that although Siwan men could take up to four wives, "Siwan customs allow a man but one boy to whom he is bound by a stringent code
of obligations."[15] In 1937 the anthropologist Walter Cline wrote the first detailed ethnography of the Siwans in which he noted: ""All normal Siwan men and boys practice sodomy...among themselves
the natives are not ashamed of this; they talk about it as openly as they talk about love of women, and many if not most of their fights arise from homosexual competition....Prominent men lend their
sons to each other. All Siwans know the matings which have taken place among their sheiks and their sheiks' sons....Most of the boys used in sodomy are between twelve and eighteen years of age." [16]
After an expedition to Siwa, the archaeologist Count Byron de Prorok reported in 1937 "an enthusiasm [that] could not have been approached even in Sodom... Homosexuality was not merely rampant, it
was raging...Every dancer had his boyfriend...[and] chiefs had harems of boys.[17] In the late 1940s a Siwan merchant told the visiting British novelist Robin Maugham that the Siwan women were "badly
neglected", but that Siwan men "will kill each other for boy. Never for a woman", although as Maugham noted, marriage to a boy had become illegal by then.[18] The Egyptian archaeologist Ahmed Fakhry,
who studied Siwa for three decades, observed in 1973 that "While the Siwans were still living inside their walled town, none of these bachelors was allowed to spend the night in the town and had to
sleep outside the gates...Under such circumstances it is not surprising that homosexuality was common among them....Up to the year 1928, it was not unusual that some kind of written agreement, which
was sometimes called a marriage contract, was made between two males; but since the visit of King Fu'ad to this oasis it has been completely forbidden...However, such agreements continued, but in
great secrecy, and without the actual writing, until the end of World War II. Now the practice is not followed." [19]
Despite the multiplicity of sources for these practices, the Egyptian authorities and even the Siwan tribal elders have attempted to repress the historical and anthropological record. When the
Siwa-born anthropologist Fathi Malim included reference to Siwan homosexuality (especially a love poem from a man to a youth) in his book Oasis Siwa (2001),[20] the tribal council demanded that he
blank out the material in the current edition of the book and remove it from future editions, or be expelled from the community. Malim reluctantly agreed and physically deleted the passages in the
first edition of his book, and excluded them from the second.[21] A newer book Siwa Past and Present (2005) by A. Dumairy, the Director of Siwa Antiquities, discreetly omits all mention of the famous
historical practices of the inhabitants
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اقراء المقال ثم تعال لنتحدث
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اتمني اجد شخص يناقش بعقلانية بدون مزايدات ولا مراوغات
ليس فقط شاذين بل يتزوجون من الاطفال ويوثقون زواجهم بعقد.. هل هنالك انحطاط اخلاقي اكثر من هذا !
المقال عبارة عن مذكرات رحالة اجانب علي فترات مختلفة حقائق انتشار اللواط بين السيوين
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mazigh land
احفاد شيشنق لواطين ههههههههههه اقراء المقال كاملا... ثم ان شيشنق ليس بربري
العجوز ماايا ارجو البقاء في صلب الموضوع :)..المهم ان الجزائر عربية
